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Poster: englishrose Date: Sep 21, 2012 2:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: in defence of Liberty

so many people dislike this song but perhaps need to listen to the Hunter version
to appreciate it. Simple but effective I find. Can't find a link unfortunately

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Poster: august_wst Date: Sep 21, 2012 6:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: in defence of Liberty

Liberty as played by the Grateful Dead is just Day Job in a new shirt.

a no energy throw away encore

Hunter's did some beautiful stuff that sometimes got smushed after being interpreted by an entire band. Some things are better left to folk. Some things need to fully rock out.

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Poster: cosmicharIie Date: Sep 21, 2012 8:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: in defence of Liberty

Imo, I think both songs convey a grate messege. I know why a bunch of hippies may not like Day Job or liberty - lol.

Jerry knew which form of government allowed him to follow the muse without much opposition - compared to other countries.

I wonder if Jerry ever voted..

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 21, 2012 11:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: in defence of Liberty

nothing intense musically but the message falls 100% into what the band was about imo. The ultimate American band ( no offense to our friends from other Countries ).

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Sep 22, 2012 2:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Don't Think I'd Heard It

I actually didn't remember ever hearing it. (Probably just me and WT.) So I pulled it up in a random show (4/1/93, the Barney-with-Phil's-bass show), and it's right there before Iko. I've heard the show; maybe I DID hear Liberty. Who knows? Anyway, it sounds to me like they tried to do something in the Iko/MSWS vein, but lighter. Not bad, not good ... just lightweight ... The underlying feeling is kind of calypso a la Pooh Bear.

The more we go
(Tiddly Pom)
The more we go
(Tiddly Pom)
On playing.

And nobody knows
(Tiddly Pom)
How cold our toes
(Tiddly Pom)
Onstage are growing.

(Tiddly Pom)
Liberty
(Tiddly Pom)
Freedom ...

But I'd give the Hunter version a shot.

If it's widely disliked, then I'd guess it's not for the message. Of course, by '93, the word "liberty" would have had its right-wing Reagan-and-Bush-era interpretations, so maybe Hunter was trying to rescue the notion from its co-optedness; but certainly the message underlying the tiddly-pom is very much what the band was about and hardly innately hippie-allergenic.

Maybe there's just not a core of believability? Here's a palate cleanser ... freedom and liberty, but I promise there is no tiddly pom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA51wyl-9IE



This post was modified by AltheaRose on 2012-09-22 09:15:49

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Poster: englishrose Date: Sep 22, 2012 2:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Don't Think I'd Heard It

spot on but do try Hunter's
liberty has different associations here maybe
some vague romantic unattainable entity that sounds good

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Sep 22, 2012 3:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I Don't Think I'd Heard It

Unfortunately I can't stream from Sugarmegs. But I can envision it being redeemable. It's light, but it least it can live with itself in the morning. Unlike Bob's astounding dalliance in mid-80s flag waving, which has to be the most eye-and-ear-poppingly dreadful thing that anyone associated with the band ever put out ... though I could be wrong (heaven forbid):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWscxdleZzI

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Sep 21, 2012 4:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: in defence of Liberty

no link??? did hunter come to your house and play it??? great to see you here!! i hope you are not anyones cousin or anything like that....

If I was an eagle I'd dress like a duck
Crawl like a lizard and honk like a truck
If I get a notion I'll climb this tree
or chop it down and you can't stop me
Chop it down and you can't stop me

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Poster: englishrose Date: Sep 21, 2012 5:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: in defence of Liberty

no I'm pretty cousin less but I have some audio versions probably from this site or sugarmegs can't recall

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Poster: englishrose Date: Sep 21, 2012 5:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: in defence of Liberty

there is one here for example
Robert Hunter 04/03/03
Park West - Chicago, IL
http://tela.sugarmegs.org/alpha/r.html

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Poster: englishrose Date: Sep 21, 2012 5:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: in defence of Liberty

and it was a CD release -how could I forget
I have it on tape!!!
tracks
1 Liberty
2 Cry Down the Years
3 Bone Alley
4 Black Shamrock
5 Song Goes On
6 Do Deny (Lying Man)
7 Worried Song
8 Come and Get It
9 When a Man Loves a Woman (not that one)